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City of Ann Arbor SSWWEP - Citizens Advisory Committee Coordination — City of Ann Arbor

2.90 -C- Mr. Burdick's backup sketch

Posted by Lori Byron on 22 Dec, 2013
Category: Category 2 - about potential recommendations

Frank Burdick’s Log Number: 6 a-h
Submitted by: Burdick log
Category (1,2,3): 2
Status: Closed
Estimated date to address: N/A

Q. 2.90 [6] See the sketch of a backup system, created by Frank Burdick, and email to Ralph Welton for 6 specific questions regarding this sketch, as follows:

Q.6a. The SSWWE CAC has submitted a suggested "gravity fed" back up system with backflow preventer for the new sump pumps.  The CAC has requested a "plain English" code interpretation for this sketch because the first interpretation provided by the Building department was not decipherable. (11/12/13)

Q.6b. Please note, as the current FDDs are designed, this same sump crock "LID" is the only protection preventing sanitary back ups from adjacent floor drains from entering the sump crock and, hence, being discharged into the storm system.   Why can't it be used as a protection from reverse flow? (11/12/13)

Q.6c. Is there a way to modify this sketch to comply? (11/12/13)

Q.6d. Could another sump crock be installed next to the sump pump crock in order to separately monitor and/or shut off the flow of potential sanitary back ups from being discharged to the storm system via the sump pump? (11/12/13)

Q.6e. Is the trap as drawn required and, if so, will an H2O trap primer be required? (11/12/13)
Q.6f. Is the "one paragraph" interpretation, citing code section P3302.1 Subsoil drains, as provided by Ralph Welton, negotiable or something that can be addressed with the State Plumbing Code Officials? (11/12/13) 
Q.6g. How does Ralph Welton interpret the phrase..." approved location..." as noted in the above referenced Code (P3302.1)? Sump pumps were only one of the options listed.

Q.6h. If the "gravity fed" back up system (as shown on the CAC submitted sketch and as noted in item 6 above) can be made to comply with applicable codes, will all existing homes with now existing FDDs be eligible for their sump locations to be modified so as to be equipped with a gravity fed back up system?  Will the City pay ALL costs for these modifications to these existing FDDs? (11/19/13)

A.6a – 6h. At the close of our August 21st meeting, Mr. Frank Burdick submitted a drawing that proposed a backup mechanism in the event of sump pump failure.  This drawing was included in the August CAC meeting summary. The core idea was to allow for a gravity feed backup to the sanitary sewer system in case of sump pump failure. Mr. Burdick requested the City to review the drawing for potential code issues.  The City has now completed its review and has determined that the gravity feed backup to the sanitary sewer would be prohibited by the Michigan Plumbing Code, Section 1103.3 which states: “Storm water shall not be drained into sewers intended for sewage only.”  The Ann Arbor City Plumbing Code (Section 8:122) provides more specific language that would prohibit such a gravity feedback backup connection: “Sump pump discharges - footing drain:  Discharges from sump pumps may not be connected to the sanitary sewer. Such discharges must connect directly to the storm sewer or be discharged in an alternative, approved manner. Such alternative drainage shall not create a drainage nuisance, and if so, must be handled in accordance with section 8:120 of this chapter.” 
 
Mr. Burdick also asked for the City to review whether or not any applicable codes could be changed by the City to allow for a gravity feed backup.  As the City’s code is supporting a State code which would prohibit such a connection, the City has indicated it will not ask the State to modify its Plumbing Code.  (12/3/13)

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